Satan's and his angels Judgement!
Question: Has Jude 1:6 and Revelation 12:7-9 happened yet? Please just don’t answer no or yes but provide Scripture to support your understanding.
Regarding Jude 1:6, IMO no not yet, as it refers to Nephilim, and their judgement is still to come!
Regarding Rev.12:7–9, again no, because as seen in Job 1&2, Satan has freedom to patrol the Earth, until the time that his freedom is curtailed for 1000 years, after which he will be destroyed and also his Demons, and all people who have ever been cohorts with him.
That event cannot take place until Christ Jesus has come to FULL Power and Glory on Earth from Jerusalem!
Rev. 12:7–17:
V.7 And there came to be (a)war in the Heaven: (b)Michael and his angels going forth to war with the (c)Dragon; who resisted with his angels.
(a) "War in the Heaven"; this Scripturally clearly is a first occurrence, and the force used is described as "war", to convey to human minds the meaning.
(b) "Michael"; is the special angel (archangel) of the Jews, (Dan. 10:13-21), and as such is championing the Jewish cause on behalf of Jehovah.
(c) "Dragon"; i.e. Satan and his angels.
V.8 And (a)prevailed not, neither was their (b)place found any more in Heaven.
(a) Michael wins the war in Heaven, and for the first time, in many Ages since Satan's rebellion against God, (see V.4 and notes) he and his followers are no longer located in that Heavenly realm.
(b) It is remarkable that Satan was ever allowed "place", in Heaven after his rebellion. However, from Job and elsewhere it is clear that in the Will of God he has. This is certainly linked to the Salvation plan of Jehovah Zebaoth, (see V.12); and is shown in (see: Satan's Contest with God).
V.9 And the (a)great Dragon was cast down, the Ancient serpent, called the Devil (slanderer) and Satan (adversary) the one deceiving the whole world; he was cast out into the Earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(a) Until this moment described, Satan had place in Heaven, despite his rebellion against God, his evil, and his constant attempts to subvert Heavenly Creation to his side. Also, he constantly attempts to accuse, discredit and latterly destroy Israel. In the book of Job, Satan is shown to be free to patrol the Earth, and with the permit of God, do his best to destroy faith in God on Earth. In V.8, he no longer has free access to God, is cast to Earth, and as we see in Revelation, regarding Israel (and many God revering people) is allowed a short time of open direct tyranny, with no attempt at pretence in the 3½ years of Israel's extreme persecution (see V.12).
V.10 And I heard a (a)great voice saying in Heaven, "Now is come the Salvation, and the Power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the Power of His Christ: for (b)the accuser of (a)our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night”.
(a) This great voice in Heaven is probably collective as it refers to “our brethren", later in the verse. As to whom the voices belong to also hinges on the same words, (see note next verse).
(b) "The accuser"; Satan.
V.11 And they (a)overcame him (b)by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their life unto death.
(a) "Overcame"; here again is the great emphasis of this time. These people mainly Jews and some Gentiles (Rev. 7:9-17) are the "Overcomers", of earlier reference. Many are already in Heaven, mostly by persecution (Rev. 6:9-11), but may also include the Body of Christ (the true Church as opposed to Christendom), which in many opinions has at this stage been translated (1Cor. 15:51- 52). There can be no doubt that the Overcomers are brethren to the Body, but not of it (Rev. 7:15), and therefore their voices possibly included in that "great voice", of V.10, in great joy. An interesting possible implication in Revelation regarding the "Overcomers", is that at their death, they appear to go straight to Heaven, whereas Christians in this Age must await the translation (1Thess. 4:13-17), which certainly is prior to this period (1Thess. 1:10), all of which is "the harvest", of which our Lord was the "first fruits", (1Cor. 15:20-23).
(b) "By the blood of the Lamb"; (Rev. 7:14).
V.12 Therefore (a)rejoice ye Heavens, and ye that dwell in them. (b)Woe to the ones dwelling on the Earth, and in the sea, because the devil is come down to you having (c)great anger, knowing he has only a little time.
(a) The inhabitants of Heaven, exhorted to rejoice. Clearly Satan had for many Ages caused great trouble, strife, conflict and much turmoil, beyond our ability to understand, whilst allowed to retain a "place", in Heaven. It is also clear that his success persuaded a third of all angels to follow him, which underlines the fact of "free-will" of the angels!
His presence is a constant source of pernicious, on-going divisive action in Heaven. Even though Heaven's Creation know who their Creator is, Satan still has much success in converting angelic creation to his side. One of the many major differences between mankind and angels, is humans will deny the existence of God Almighty, and also Satan. It is implicit that one element is common to both Earthly and Heavenly Creation, free-will! It is therefore easy to understand that Heavenly Creation rejoices at the expulsion of such an adversary, after so long in their midst, and also in the knowledge that Satan's efforts will be short on Earth.
The question often asked by many over the years, is how could Almighty God allow Satan to exist after such rebellion, and even to be in His presence, to have place in Heaven; and patrol Earth (Job 1 and 2). The answer undoubtedly lies in The Perfect Plan of Redemption, that only God could conceive, wherein the Perfect Love of God would allow Satan to perform to his vile worst in Heaven as well as Earth after the Overthrow, all of which is observed by Heavenly Creation (Eph. 3:10).
Some argue that such a protracted process is wasteful, painful, and suffers great loss of life and environment. That is to miss the main point. It is of course easily possible for Almighty God to eliminate Satan. To do so however prematurely would not allow Creation to see the depth of sin that Satan will eventually stoop to, or the forbearance of Almighty God!
Conversely, the Almighty will be seen by all Creation to take the burden and result on Himself, in the form of Christ Jesus (Col. 1:20). It is thereafter the response to Christ's death and suffering (in the place of all accepting humankind) which is the key to every individual's eternal destiny, on Earth and also in Heaven, in this Age, and eternity!
The main thrust for Satan's pernicious attention had been Heaven's occupants and the tribes of Israel. Abraham was chosen by God. He was called "the friend of God", Ex. 33:11, 2Chr. 20:7, Isa. 41:8 & Jms. 2:23, because his heart was against the idolatry of his father, and the Nation Ur, which derived from Babylon!
After Paul's declaration (Acts 28:25-28), all the world's Nations became the subject of Satan's attention; which showed in the Wisdom of Jehovah Zebaoth, that the failure of Satan at The Cross and the failure of Israel to accept Christ (Acts 28:26-28), increased the eventual harvest for Christ / Jehovah.
Most people on Earth are fixated with their flesh life, which is natural enough. However, because of the events of Eden, see: Eve and Adam they are not content, and can only find rest, peace and understanding in Him, albeit in simple sincere trust, which people find hard to give, unless they encounter Christ, personally; and that can only happen if the person undertakes a sincere and heartfelt search for Him in the Bible! (See: Free-will (Predestination).
Because all the efforts of Satan are eventually self-defeating, and will be seen as such by Heavenly and Earthly Creation, the Almighty in Christ will vanquish Satan, but not until Heaven and Earth have been reminded that Satan stands for deceit, destruction, suffering and death, (Rev.20:3, 20:7-10), as opposed to the Love, Peace, Justice and Righteousness of Jehovah/Christ. After that reminder, Satan and his followers will be consigned to doom (Rev. 20:10). All that remains for individuals at the present time (i.e. this Age) is to trust in God's work, in Christ Jesus. The timing of the above is in the hands of the Father only (Matt. 24:36), and His timing is perfect (Matt. 5:48). The perfect timing of God the Father means that Satan is defeated by Perfect Love (a concept totally alien to mankind); which means that Satan is defeated by Love, which is God (1John 4:8-16)!
Had Satan been destroyed at the time of his rebellion, none of the above could have come into play and such action by the Almighty would have been seen by Creation as dictatorial, and His plan of Love could not unfold to fruition. As the plan now unfolds, God will indeed be seen as Ultimate Love.
(b) The dire warning to Earth's and sea's inhabitants, prior to the last woe auger terrible events for them.
(c) Satan's Heavenly banishment leaves him with less room for manoeuvre, and activity. His success in Heaven has clearly been great, but the worthiness of The Lamb, allowed the releasing of the 7th seal, triggering the banishment in the timing of Jehovah Zebaoth. Satan had recruited / converted angelic help for many reasons, all of which are to attempt to thwart the plan of Salvation of God Almighty and to magnify himself. The first example in this present Creation produced the Scripture recorded result of Nephilim, (Gen. 6) which had it succeeded would have brought to nothing the promise of God in Eden (Gen. 3:15), however, God intervened at the crucial stage to rid Earth of Nephilim, and save the pure line of Noah, and preserve His Prophecies and promises. Although Nephilim re-appeared after Noah; their numbers were so reduced by Saul and David that they could not populate the world to thwart God’s Planning!
The situation on Earth at the time of Satan's Heavenly expulsion is dire for the Jews, as the "man of sin", has broken his Covenant with Israel after 3½ years, and is imposing a brutal regime. This man often called "Anti-Christ", is now newly empowered by Satan, now located in Pergamos (Rev. 2:12-13), which interestingly is the location that the Babylonian priesthood removed to at the fall of Babylon many centuries earlier. Satan must still attempt to achieve the goal of stopping the promises of Jehovah Zebaoth regarding His people Israel from coming to fruition. He now releases his full wrath onto the ancient people of God, Israel.
V.13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast down unto the Earth, he (a)persecuted the (b)woman which brought forth the (c)male child.
V.14 And to the (b)woman were given the (d)two wings of a great eagle, that she may fly into the wilderness into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
(a) See previous verses of this Chapter.
(b) See V.1, V.5 & V.6.
(c) See V.5.
(d) See V.6, "two wings of a great eagle”; a great and powerful bird, which soars to great heights and inaccessible places. This would imply supernatural help from Jehovah Adon, to secure the flight of His remnant people Israel, to secure their safety, nourishment, etc., for the 3½ years duration; "from the face (VENOM, THREAT AND DEATH) of the serpent (Satan)".
V.15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a (a)river after the (b)woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
V.16 And the Earth helped the woman, and the Earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river which the Dragon cast out of his mouth.
V.17 And the Dragon was (c)wroth with the woman, and went to war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the (d)commandments of God, holding the testimony of Jesus.
(a) "River"; hordes of people etc., in the form of military action against the woman etc., as seen in following Chapters.
(b) "Woman"; Israel, see V.6.
(c) The anger of Satan, now confined to Earth, and only now able to take action against the followers of God on Earth.
(d) Those who have come to know Christ and hold their testimony (Rev. Chapters 2 and 3).
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